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I agree, as to yet nobody has been scammed that I am aware of. I have personally made very good returns and have been able to withdraw from the platform on every occasion that I have tried to date.
It cannot be ignored that there are so many inconsistencies, disconnects and red flags that it is hard to believe that it is not a scam of some nature, or at the very least a front. I have however (by quite some margin now) taken more out of all of this than I have put in (safely stored where no scammer can reach it), so I participate with a lightness of heart. If my misgivings turn out to be misplaced I will be pleasantly surprised by humanity and will apologise profusely to anyone who cares to listen.
Is anyone familiar with the Futures trading pairs and associated coins that they tend to focus on for contract trading? BZTC/USDC and VYON/USDC in particular?
Will,
I strongly suspect you are part of the ‘project team’ (read that as a euphemism for what you want), but let me respond anyway:You say that the retail beta testing has generated ‘quite a bit of attention’….it really hasn’t. There is very little to no discussion about PFIT or PinnacleFlow in any of the crypto circles which is staggering and would be unprecedented given the exponential, unwavering and continual increase of the PFIT price. The only online presence of the project and PFIT remains the white paper and reposting by several sites (who are all very clear that they don’t fact check and simply repost) of the press releases by PCPP. Nobody else talks about it.
Also worth noting that the press releases make no reference to this being a collaboration with either named or unnamed partners, according to you no doubt because it is so incredibly commercially sensitive, yet PCPP feel at liberty to freely share details of their ‘deep collaboration’ with FCAT and PGIM with a a WhatsApp group of 40,000(!) unscreened members of the public that they attracted via social media (and which according to their claims has been ‘infiltrated’ several times) and present this as the foundation for the credibility of it all.
Really?Ok the last post from Sparktom was the final bit of information to convince me. I have (successfully and without a glitch) withdrawn all funds from NDAE. I have made good profit from this whole exercise. They have allowed me to cash in on the growth of PFIT and withdraw my funds plus profit on multiple occasions so some part of me still want to give the benefit of the doubt. At the same time I see no reason why I should take the risk if the system will indeed be launched and available to the public later.
Just to clarify…I did not put $20k in; I put around $13k in and the rest was profit.
Another thought, assuming you believe the number of members that they claim, the testing period yielded $20m total profit in two weeks, using their funds but giving away the profit to the members (several people here have had the profits and were able to transfer it out). Surely it is easier to do that for themselves for a few months and easily make the $80m legitimately. They could of course have faked the numbers as they only have to pay the actual human members, but that also reduces the ‘scam’ amount that they stand to benefit from. I am just not convinced that it stacks up and it just seems too elaborate a scheme and risk for the return.
What is very clear at the moment is that they are pushing PFIT hard and since they created it and controls most of it, they stand to benefit most. There is always the possibility that they are simply trying to do what every crypto project tries to do, i.e. increase demand and uptake of their coin so the creators can benefit.
I remain undecided for now.
I have made enough from the price increase in PFIT to participate in the next phase using ‘their money’ rather than mine so will provide updates in due course.
Im joining this thread. Have been part of the group for a month or so. Like others have made good returns from signals and was part of the second round of Beta testing. I did put some of my own money in PFIT, benefitted from price increases and as a test sold it all and transferred the money out. All of this worked after a a few hours of the transaction pending (was about $20k so large enough to attract attention. I have had suspicions about this from the start and agree that: 1) most of the members and at least the assistant are bots. I had a conversation with the assistant about this, but that is obviously useless. 2) I cannot find any link between PPCP and the other two firms, 3) none of the the people involved have credible social media or professional presence – most people today would leave traces on Linkedin, IG, FB, their local flea market group, etc so this is strange 4) I cannot find any awareness or discussion about PFIT or PinnacleFlow in the usual chatter of the crypto communities, which is strange. The only media presence is their own press release in May and a few bits since.
Right this minute they are offering continued access to the system for the Beta test group with a minimum lock-in of $1,000 per member. Whilst this may well be ‘the scam’ it seems hardly worth all of the effort. I therefore continue to be slightly perplexed, convinced that all is not right but currently benefitting from growth in the value of PFIT that outstrips the return that their system delivered per day during Beta testing