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- 3rd October 2025 at 8:53 am #155197
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ParticipantHi, this Whatsapp and Telegram group is advertising Pinnacle Flo 5.0 AI trading software that is in development but will be available soon at a very big price. We have had multiple 10% plus tips. All on my own accounts and with my money. A definite underlining suggestion of investing in the main crypto at the moment. We do a quiz and lottery twice a week that pays out in crypto.
We get a lesson every night in the basics of trading.
It sounds too good to be true….right?
Assuming it’s a scam, how will they get me?
Has anyone come across them?
3rd October 2025 at 8:55 am #155198Doubtful
ParticipantThe well know Sebastian Hatherleigh is the teacher, who doesn’t seem to have existed on Facebook for more than 5 months….
5th October 2025 at 12:23 pm #155209Sceptic
ParticipantWhen you search for Sebastian Hatherleigh on LinkedIn he has no profile. Isn’t this a red flag as most reputable businessmen would be on there. I have also been involved with this WhatsApp group and made profit on my own accounts. I think the fact they are getting you to sign up to QOCPLUS could be interesting. The PFIT token is only available on there. The others involved like Lukas Meier and Lina Korolenko don’t appear to have substantiated profiles. Further investigation is required
5th October 2025 at 7:14 pm #155212Scott Crawford
ParticipantI am also on the whatsapp group. Exactly the same situation as you..
Very sceptical.
Have won prizes in the lottery, making money on stocks from their advice, have just won 40 pfit tokens on the lottery and been asked to download an app (NDAEPRO) to receive the tokens..
..This is where it gets dodgy
Reluctant to download anything knowing that scammers can access your device with downloadable files disguised as something else.
No personal / banking details handed over ever.7th October 2025 at 12:18 pm #155316uhurusurfa
ParticipantI agree there is something fishy and most likely it is the download of their trading platform.
These days there is no reason for an installed application – it can and should be done in the browser.I also tried researching the puproted key people like Halyna and they do nto seem to have an y longevity on LinkedOn or other platforms.
Also, many of the users seem to be bots … the things they say are wierd (at least to me). and designed to make you think there are happy people on the platform.
My opinion – steer clear of downloading anything or giving them anything more than your WhatsApp contact.
7th October 2025 at 2:10 pm #155322Carl
ParticipantI have been participating for a while. Small investments on my own account + won some crypto also sent to my own wallet.
Now too many red flags. Why does Lina need so many accounts. To me it indicates multiple people answering as Lina. They always answer straight away.
The biggest was being told to download the QOCplus app to recieve PFIT. A crypto trading app with no reviews and very little traffic.
Obviously all the ai trials will be on this platform. The money you are being told will be given to test pinnacle flow will be on QOCplus only. At some point you will be encouraged to use your own money to invest in PFIT tokens as they will be rocketing in value. Truth is PFIT has no value anywhere else but on their platform.
Run for the hills it’s a scam7th October 2025 at 9:58 pm #155323Suspiciously
ParticipantI’m in the WhatsApp group too and recently “won” 40 PFIT which I haven’t claimed yet.
I did some research and the full name they gave for QOC exchange isn’t registered with SEC.
Additionally the pinnacleflowhub.com was only registered in August this year.
Today I asked Lina why lots of people are talking about their lottery wins from last night when there wasn’t a quiz. Her reply was a laughing emoji on my comment and she said there will be a quiz tomorrow.
I’m new to investing stocks and I’m using the ISA for them and with very little money.
I am however good at researching things before I do them and this information was easy to find.
7th October 2025 at 10:57 pm #155324Twixxy
ParticipantWey hey I’m in the WhatsApp group too although as far as I can make out there are only 2 of us that are actually real people 🤔
I have followed some of their investment tips, and made a few ££. I was also given some SOL and ETH absolutely gutted when I won 80 PFIT as no way was I going to download their NDAE App 😬 I hope no real person in the group actually believes this scam7th October 2025 at 10:58 pm #155325Twixxy
ParticipantI wonder how many of these groups there are?
8th October 2025 at 9:44 am #155331Carl
ParticipantHow can you tell whose real and who’s a bot apart from some of the odd comments or unswerving Support for PFIT
8th October 2025 at 1:15 pm #155338Suspiciously
ParticipantThe WhatsApp group has gone
8th October 2025 at 1:18 pm #155340Suspiciously
ParticipantI introduced myself when I joined the WhatsApp group and nobody responded so that was a bit odd to me.
I guess it’s because they were all bots as they just continued to post their stuff.
8th October 2025 at 6:48 pm #155345Sceptic
ParticipantThe Whatsapp group is still there. Euronext strategic Forum X2. The FCA are aware of this now. The QOCplus app is owned by Pacific Peak Capital Partners Ltd. The way the scam could work is closing the exchange when big money hits from investors. I believe there are only about 5 or so real people on there. Definitely bots as the conversations I’ve had are not normal. We are all getting drawn in slowly. I sold the pfit I won, exchanged it for USDc and sent to Coinbase. The withdrawal fees are high on QOCplus.
8th October 2025 at 8:17 pm #155346Sceptic
ParticipantIt appears the catch will be PFIT and the Pinnacle flow system….will you spend $75000 on a license….they are pushing all the emotions to prime people to need it…I bet they will heavily discount it for beta testers
8th October 2025 at 10:56 pm #155349Twixxy
ParticipantEvening, Unfortunately I’ve now been removed from the PFIT Beta Club 🌍 | Seed 🌱. However I am still in 2 other groups. They way I’ve been checking is to use Google image search and check. I have also reported it to the action fraud group but I don’t think they will be able to stop it before it’s too late for some people. With that in mind and also as it appears there are several groups, how about we all post a message on the same day, at the same time in our relevant groups stating – THIS IS A SCAM DO NOT INVEST!! Yes it will probably get deleted but hopefully some might be saved
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